“If you don't have that personal relationship with someone that doesn't look like you, then that's a challenge that I think people should embrace.”

Pastor Phil recently sat down for a candid conversation with Danan Hughes to discuss the Gospel, race issues, and how we can all play a part as we work towards true reconciliation. Danan, who played wide receiver for the Kansas City Chiefs, is a long-time member of Abundant Life and friend of Pastor Phil.